Elizabeth Bowes Lyon: A Queen Mum of Bad Blood

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Lace cocoa
Lace cocoa 4 ай бұрын
As a black woman I should be mad but I'm not. I just believe she was born in a certain time period to where she was taught those certain mindsets. A child is like a backpack you pack it with information and they carry it with them throughout their life. Has she been born in other circumstances she would have thought differently. I cannot judge a woman who if she was alive today she would be in her mid 100 Years of age. She lived 100 plus years ago so I can't judge her about today's standards. I think when people do that they make a great mistake. What I think today might not be popular 50 years from now. But I'm glad that you covered her whole life and said what you said. I think it's good when people are honest about who a person is
Vickie Wallace
Vickie Wallace Ай бұрын
That was so beautiful and eloquent. Thank you for sharing your living perspective. Blessings
Christine Usher
Christine Usher Ай бұрын
@Smithface I worked with two Australian girls who had nothing but contemp for the rest in the office and there was no reason to be, using the telephone to australia , you sound as if you could have been in Devon i had the same treatment and I'm English.
Joyce Baron
Joyce Baron Ай бұрын
@Anna Al we can only surmise what people are like but unless we live with them we have no idea, as for Queen mum she was a product of the Victorian age my parents were the same mum was soft but my father could be vindictive and nasty. To people outside he was very nice. So like I say we don't know unless we live with them
Anna Al
Anna Al Ай бұрын
Sorry but I disagree. She was a spoilt, unpleasant woman, often on the bottle, managing her husband like Markle manages Harry now. There were kind people in olden days, my grandma was born in 1903 and being 64 now I knew her well. She took care of me for many years. I never witnessed her being unkind or disrespectful to anyone and my mother who was born in 1938 is another example I can present. She is nothing like my grandma and despite of being born almost 40 years later after my grandma was, still is rude, aggressive and unkind. I heard that my grandmas father was also a lovely man. My mom in law another wonderful person (would be 100 now). So let’s not excuse the QM because she was old, it is not a good enough excuse.
Joyce Baron
Joyce Baron Ай бұрын
I agree with what you say about the Queen mum, but as a white Anglo Saxon Celt do you know of the crimes perpritated on us hundreds of years ago , we also were took as slaves when invaded by the Vikings, and Norman's, and Romans they fed us to the lions . We were slaughter and raped it's happened in just about every country on earth ,Wether it be the Spanish, French or the Ottermans they all had empires ,so please it doesn't matter what colour we are ,we've all had similar pasts ,
Letty
Letty 3 ай бұрын
I have always said that this women was very ambitious ONCE she realised what being royal was she became obsessed and absolutely loved it! She apparently sent a letter to someone stating how her brother in law Edward VIII was not appropriate for king and that her and her husband were! This is before the abdication! She was clearly extremely ambitious and had her eyes on the crown all along! I never believed she was this sweet commoner everyone makes out she was - she is the absolute opposite, in every sense!!!’
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 5 күн бұрын
@KJS FL i said evidence not "Edward is the king, Edward only lasted 10 months in 1936
KJS FL
KJS FL 5 күн бұрын
@Cyril Marasigan One more time slowly… Pre 1923… QM wanted Edward who was heir apparent who was not interested in her. She wanted to be queen with Edward as king Bertie wooed her…she was not interested because Edward was still free and heir apparent…She refused Bertie because she had her eye on the crown (not knowing she would get it with Bertie.) So when it was clear that Edward was not interested AT all. She accepted Bertie’s proposal and married him in 1923. Cyril, she was a social climber in that she wanted to marry the heir to the throne and she didn’t give up Until she saw it was evident that he was not interested So she married the next in the line secession after rejecting him numerous times. Because she was a social climber Watch the Netflix documentary “Queen Mother: A Royal Century” She got what she wanted. She was an extravagant spender purchasing all kinds of flamboyant jewelry and clothing. And at her death she had a massive amount of debt. She extremely snobby and bigoted as well Please watch the documentary.
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 5 күн бұрын
@KJS FL Really? Evidence of that word of your? And really? She even rejected Bertie 3x Is that someone wanted to be a queen?
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 5 күн бұрын
@KJS FL Uhm...really? A social climber? When she rejected Bertie (EQII father) 3x? Is that how you define a social climber
KJS FL
KJS FL 5 күн бұрын
@Cyril Marasigan Settling”means accepting the lesser when there was no hope of getting who she thought who be king. She was a social climber and very narcissistic
Denise K
Denise K 2 ай бұрын
Had always heard rumors, even as an American, that she was not what the media portrayed her to be; nice, kind, friendly, or even frugal. It’s ironic she held the beliefs of King Edward VIII, yet condemned he and his wife. Her attitude towards her two nieces is heartbreaking. Their only crime is they were born “less than perfect.”
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
All lies.
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 6 күн бұрын
Uhm....it wasn't Queen Mother's fault that she has attitudes influences by Aristocratic minds also WTF! Said that she is a good person when we freaking not really know her plus Bertie and Elizabeth is content to be a duke and duchess and she believed that Her brother in law would change and marry and have an heir but that doesn't do it and they were pushed as the new monarchs when a war is nearing
Helen Sutton
Helen Sutton 7 күн бұрын
Horrible woman
Hippy Hop
Hippy Hop 25 күн бұрын
She was horrible, the north of England hated her, I can’t speak for the south
Jessie MacGregor
Jessie MacGregor Ай бұрын
@Historian212OH thank God you made that clear 🙏 I thought it was her own kids u were talking about. What do you suggest she should have done since they were not her kids ?
Alan Brown
Alan Brown 4 ай бұрын
I used to watch news pictures of the queen mother on tv and I concluded that she was someone who knew exactly how to "work the crowds". It seems I wasn't wrong.
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
@Jessie MacGregor Yes, these people have nothing else to do, but rake up the past.
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 6 күн бұрын
@Ruby Nelson True since Monarchy survived through the graces of people but hey even in democratic nations they lived in graces of people by promising something
Alan Brown
Alan Brown Ай бұрын
@Jessie MacGregor Can't say I'm bothered about peoples' opinion of me after I'm gone. In contrast, the royalty are all about creating impressions to ensure its continuation..... and that of the "establishment". They have plenty of sycophants to help out. Royalty should have been disbanded in the early 1800s, it became meaningless after that time.
Jessie MacGregor
Jessie MacGregor Ай бұрын
This women has been laid to rest for years but yet U are still getting pleasure from raking up the past it's no wonder Horrid Harry is doing the same using his dead Mother to keep him on the front page But if this is what makes your world go round just think after your gone what others are going to rake up about you.
Jessie MacGregor
Jessie MacGregor Ай бұрын
@Ruby Nelson I agree with your comments 🥳🥳
Caroline L
Caroline L 4 ай бұрын
My mother told me that she wasn't generally appreciated when visiting bomb sites during the war. All dressed up and back to her nice warm palace, lots of food and no hardships. She had no idea what the general population were going through, she went to be seen that was all. As for the palace being bombed it wasn't damaged beyond repair and they had their own very comfortable bunkers (complete with servants) under the palace
Ars longa vita brevis
Ars longa vita brevis 14 сағат бұрын
@stuart sharman Very well said my friend!!!
I'm Not Sus
I'm Not Sus 29 күн бұрын
Queen's Mum was not as nice as Queen Elizabeth and nothing as kind as her father because people always thought that Claude bowes-lyon was a waiter that time because he is super loyal.
Nabiha Habibullah
Nabiha Habibullah Ай бұрын
All royals are detached from the real world around them, they pamper themselves with all the privileges that come with the title and observe what's going on as a dramatic movie to entertain themselves. When someone is completely drugged with wealth, he /she will never realize what suffering is, their hearts are cold and their souls are dead.
Keith Davies
Keith Davies Ай бұрын
@gillian bergh No,you're missing the point, they didn't have SOME German ancestry, they WERE German. Why do you think they changed their name to WINDSOR? Probably didn't speak English when they landed.
gillian bergh
gillian bergh Ай бұрын
@strake750 The restoration of the monarchy was popular, because having fun was no longer regarded as 'sinful'. I daresay the puritans would have banned sex, if it was not a necessity for reproduction.
Gazgandalf
Gazgandalf 4 ай бұрын
My Grandmother was 'in Service' and told me years ago that the Queen Mother wasn't very pleasant. If I recall, her words were, "She isn't a nice person and can be cruel." I was shocked because the Media portrayed her as saintly. I don't think she was a particularly warm-person and was simply 'functional' around us lesser beings. A product of her time? Perhaps, but I think power and position can enable our darker side.
Chloe Hall
Chloe Hall 3 күн бұрын
The King, George VI, mother was Queen Mary Teck. I’ve read many accounts of Mary being a kleptomaniac. If she was visiting and saw something that caught her eye (snuff boxes, music boxes, etc.) she would put it in her pocket and take it home with her.
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 6 күн бұрын
@Sundance Uhm...what kind of stupid media tabloid did you read? Charles was always blamed while Diana wasn't for the destruction of their marriage, Their marriage wasn't 1 sided, Diana also contributed that by having affairs on her owns
Sundance
Sundance 6 күн бұрын
@Cyril Marasigan And Charles now King was walking this earth completely blameless right????
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 6 күн бұрын
@Sundance Well her older sisters have to say in PRIVATE not like Charles Spencer who had scandalous life
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 6 күн бұрын
@Sundance Oh yeah! Don't forget Diana is a adultress because she had 2 lovers outside of marriages also wow you really eat what American Media is eating you huh?!
Yvonne Rahui
Yvonne Rahui 3 ай бұрын
I just got to the part about her neices being in a mental institution . The TV show The Crown covers this story quite well. Margaret heard a snippet of information & did research & found them. She didn't visit but had her friend go. Apparently there was quite a family of them instituted! And the girls were recorded as deceased!
anna christine
anna christine 4 күн бұрын
You do know that The Crown is a fictionalized version of historic events don’t you ? It wasn’t Margaret who discovered it. It was journalists. Having Margaret find it just makes for a better story. That’s the fiction part.
afreeman63
afreeman63 Ай бұрын
Why would you believe anything said in The Crown??? It is not a documentary.
John O'Sullivan
John O'Sullivan Ай бұрын
as much as that story is very tragic there is absolutely no evidence that the late Princess Margaret ever researched the plight of her cousins or found them.
Vernon Sheldon-Witter
Vernon Sheldon-Witter Ай бұрын
@Pedantic Radiator Her Uncle's wife was where the recessive gene came from.
burlhorse
burlhorse 2 ай бұрын
this seems normal for the royal family though-at that time.they fail to acknowledge family with mental illness..it was all hidden away
Dreich Outdoors
Dreich Outdoors 2 ай бұрын
My great grandmother was a servant at Dunrobin Castle in the very early 1900's where the future QM visited as a child. My great grandmother had a huge dislike of the QM until the day she died. The one time i asked her why, I saw her naturally smiling face turn to a scowl and she seethed the words "horrible nasty woman".
Nicky L
Nicky L 2 күн бұрын
My Gt Uncle was a Gamekeeper on a Scottish Estate, the family he worked for would go on shoots to Glamis. He had much the same view having met her on multiple occasions.
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
My late grandmother loves the Queen Mum and QE2
Sara Raftery
Sara Raftery 6 күн бұрын
my grandma was the same age as elizabeth, and what she called her is not fit for print!
gukhaloon
gukhaloon 4 ай бұрын
Many years back,someone told me a story about one of their relatives who was "in service" for the Queen mother,possibly at Sandringham,during WW2.Afternoon tea was being served and some of the sandwiches were not perfectly triangular,leading to an outburst by the QM,with various members of staff being interrogated and being told that standards had to be upheld,even during wartime.It's a hard life for some!
Sundance
Sundance Ай бұрын
@Cathy New York Did anyone ever tell you your mother didn't want you?? You were found in a dumpster. NOW GOODBYE
Cathy New York
Cathy New York Ай бұрын
@Sundance I think your Mother didn't love you enough -- you have a bitter and angry attitude on this thread.
Sundance
Sundance Ай бұрын
@Cathy New York 👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
Cathy New York
Cathy New York Ай бұрын
@Sundance Children or grandchildren of ex slaves are NOT some kind of holy people.
Sundance
Sundance Ай бұрын
@Cathy New York Children or grandchildren of Ex Slaves, yes I do believe that comment.
Jill Ruben
Jill Ruben Күн бұрын
And yes, you have a new subscriber. Cannot wait to watch another. Love history and you do a wonderful way of explaining.
I amcarbonandotherbits.
I amcarbonandotherbits. Ай бұрын
I had a friend in the military and working at the palace, and the QM, grabbed him one day and said follow me. He said walking behind the QM and listening to her chunterings was eye-opening as the language she used was barrack room to say the least. She pointed out a decanter of whisky and said to him, look at that, there's at least half a glass in quantity missing from it, how am I to stop the servants from drinking from these decanters when those who are supposed to recharge them to the top, fall short of their dutys. The half glass had apparently been drunk by one of the royals. The QM then moved on to other things leaving my friend alone in the room, he took a quick look around then had a heafty slug from the decanter himself, well perks of the trade as they say.
L. Alexandra
L. Alexandra 4 ай бұрын
I never thought well of the Queen Mum. There’s something about her face, or in her eyes, that goes well with this short biography. She looks as if she used her “sweet face” to get away with the way she treated people and the things she said: massive manipulative. I may be wrong but she didn’t look particularly bright but she’d use her authority to push her own agenda in a selfish way.
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 6 күн бұрын
That's why Hitler called her "The most dangerous woman"
Ed y
Ed y 2 ай бұрын
Stop judging people on how they look. Bigot.
Louise Harper
Louise Harper 2 ай бұрын
Jessie MacGregor, So very true! In a BBC documentary, about Wallis and Edward, in 1936, three years before WWII and when Hitler was preparing his armies, MI5 knew she, Simpson, was taking the Kings messages to the Italian embassy. The Kings messages were edited by MI5 as Edward and Mrs Simpson were such a high security risk and what the King saw had unbeknown to him been censored because of suspected security leaks. As Italy was in league with Germany I would personally call Wallis and Windsor a pair of traitors. Since Megan married into the Royal family we read, see, hear nothing but tell tales and lies, it seems she is out to ruin the Royals, if that is, what we read or hear is actually true.
sheesh
sheesh 2 ай бұрын
i always found esp as she aged with those rotten teeth she looked like a witch
Louise Harper
Louise Harper 3 ай бұрын
Albert Einstein didn't look particularly bright! And I don't think believing films made for KZpost is particularly bright either.
liza martin
liza martin 2 ай бұрын
This really didn't show how Elizabeth was venomous. She absolutely had a hand in Edwards abdication and making herself Queen. And she came in between Elizabeth and Philip. Queen Elizabeth had to navigate her and her husband. Then she was the one behind forcing Charles to marry Diana! So you missed all of this....
Bobisu
Bobisu 2 ай бұрын
I didn't think the Queen Mother was ever thought of as lovely.
Mairim
Mairim 2 күн бұрын
For me is hard to believe she blamed Wallis for the King death when she knew he had lung cancer.
Trici Venola
Trici Venola 4 ай бұрын
These comments from those who actually encountered the Queen Mum describe a woman who was lovely as long as you were what she considered an equal, not so much if you weren't. I am reminded of certain beloved movie stars who are nice to the famous and treat everybody else like trash. Fortunately they're not all like that- and neither, I am told, are the royals.
clarissaharlow
clarissaharlow 2 күн бұрын
@Sheila Nixon nice little fairy story!
mrpurple11
mrpurple11 3 күн бұрын
@Sheila Nixon yeah, that sounds like fanfiction
Jadzia
Jadzia Ай бұрын
@Eliza Goodytwoshoes well, Im from Canada. I know that most province still go nuts for the monarchy. Well needless to say that Im from the french province and so many wants to cut the ties we have with them. Im not saying I hate them. I believe its time to cut the ties. Thats all. I wouldnt exchange place with them. I just believe its time to let go of the monarchy and I am fully aware that it will take time to do so and it just needs to be done
iamtn area
iamtn area 2 ай бұрын
@BW1 Its down to the media in the UK who are predominantly royalist and the class system which still exists.
I. Ehrenfest
I. Ehrenfest 2 ай бұрын
@Andrew_koala you seem to be a bit of an ah
Vortigan07
Vortigan07 2 ай бұрын
Based on a large consensus of things that I've read, I don't think she liked *anyone* all that much! As another comment below points out, even in her role as Grandmother and Great-Grandmother, it was only really the immediate heirs that she had any affection for...and isn't just possible that Margaret's rebellious spirit was at least in part a backlash to a cold mother? I shouldn't wonder if she was also, in private, a domineering cloud over Bertie's head too for a lot of the time! One thing I read very recently, in the wake of Queen Elizabeth II's passing was that Phillip would now be cursing in his coffin, forced to spend eternity lying across a darkened room from her! So yes, I think she's generally known by anyone who's cared to scratch a little beneath the surface to have been a pretty unpleasant character.
jan jan
jan jan 3 күн бұрын
She is possibly to blame for Charles being spoilt. I got the impression her other grandchildren had less attention. I think Charles married Camila because she reminds him of the QM. So much for the Oedipus and Electra theory
gillian bergh
gillian bergh Ай бұрын
There are someone who believe Prince Philip is God. Their religion is as valid as any other. How galling for his mil if it's true!
Katherine Kelly
Katherine Kelly 2 ай бұрын
The Queen Mum said about herself that she wasn’t as nice as people thought she was - so she had some self awareness on the difference between her public persona and her private life
TMC
TMC 12 сағат бұрын
Im sorry, I LIKE HER - she even said "Im not as nice as people think I am." She came from a different era and she SAVED the monarchy by being a rock for her husband when foolish Edward fled. She might act high born and affluent and narcissstic, but she raised a stellar queen in Elizabeth 2 and protected the monarchy during a very haphazard time.
Happy traveller
Happy traveller 4 ай бұрын
My grandmother loathed the Queen Mother. I trust her judgement
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
You give no reasons why your gran loathed the QM.
BiG-JuP O1O1
BiG-JuP O1O1 29 күн бұрын
@Jake Sugarman Because it the truth of who she was and how treated people. They only sided with Allies to survive as Monarch l, without people support the royals would be tarnished.
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman 29 күн бұрын
@John Dean Yeah they made this a very negative video. A lot is not correct
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman 29 күн бұрын
@BiG-JuP O1O1 It still seems like a very negative video about her though
BiG-JuP O1O1
BiG-JuP O1O1 29 күн бұрын
@Jake Sugarman They were only against it because people of UK were against it. Why you think they quickly changed their names in WW1? Because they feared people of UK would eradicate them from monarchy that should no longer exist anymore.
karen hepple
karen hepple 4 ай бұрын
I lived opposite one of the Queen mothers butlers. He worked for her many years. He said she had a different demeanour behind closed doors and was not a nice person to say the least. Shame !
D W
D W 9 сағат бұрын
@Jake Sugarman Those that have good and bad sides dont have integrity.
SomethingStupid
SomethingStupid 10 күн бұрын
@karen hepple I'm absolutely willing to believe Elizabeth was an entitled, condescending person but is there any proof this man actually worked for Elizabeth apart from his own word? Because certainly you know just as well as me people tend to make themselves look more important than they actually are and I doubt a royal butler, particularly an old school one, would ever slander his mistress no matter how terrible she treated him. Either way, it doesn't really matter anymore, does it? She's been 6 feet under for 20 years. Royal or common - we're all gonna be equally dead in the end. ;)
karen hepple
karen hepple 10 күн бұрын
@SomethingStupid Unprofessional or not this lovely old retired gent did work for the Queen mother whether you regard that or not. However there are plenty of people who have worked for the royals over the years who have openly gave their their opinion on them . Take care !
SomethingStupid
SomethingStupid 10 күн бұрын
I seriously doubt an actual royal butler would go out gossiping about the character of his master or mistress. Discretion is the cardinal rule for any house servant, especially a butler and wagging their tongue in a disrespectful fashion is extremely unprofessional.
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman Ай бұрын
@evverrette1 Maybe but she was also very dedicated to her people
life In the slow lane
life In the slow lane Ай бұрын
My grandmother met Her Royal Highness in very unusual circumstances. She was receiving an award at Buckingham Palace. While waiting she needed the bathroom and as it was right before the award she was quickly accompanied along a corridor. Coming toward her was a lady with her shoes in her hand and stocking feet. My nan joked don't let her majesty catch you. The lady said they will have me in the Tower!. They both laughed and parted ways. 10 minutes later standing nervously in the receiving line she came face to face with the lady now in shoes and a hat. It was the Queen mum!! She winked at nan and whispered our little secret..... nan said I won't tell if you won't ma'am. She adored the Queen mum. And only told the story after she passed away.
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
See, so she wasn't mean at all. People make up stories sometimes.
S N D
S N D 2 ай бұрын
Since the day I ever saw QM's picture or video clip, my heart always said that the vibe of this person is not good. Then I read a lot of article about how great she was and I instantly knew she was a horrible manipulator who knew how to hold on to power. My heart never agreed to her being a nice person. Now going through all these comments I feel so assured of my sixth sense.
V. King
V. King 3 ай бұрын
I have no idea where she got her information, but as a child in the 50’s, my mother always said she was not the person she is being portrayed. She said she was cruel and rude to anyone who she considered beneath her. She resented her daughter taking over her ‘job’. As she got old, she was undeservedly put on a pedestal.
ElizabethEva Young
ElizabethEva Young 2 ай бұрын
@Savina King ... Her Majesty to her Father and to God ... . I count this, the Glory of my Crown, that I Reigned with your Love. And Her Majesty referred to Balmoral, as her Father also loved Balmoral as her dear Paradise in the Highlands.
Savina King
Savina King 2 ай бұрын
That's why they gave her the name Queen Mother, so she wouldn't complain about being side lined. No wonder the Queen adored he father, it's obvious that she inherited her beautiful persona from him!.
J Green
J Green 3 ай бұрын
I disliked Q Mother through and through. Why? Because I could see her coldness through her fake smile or the media propaganda.
Bez Starling
Bez Starling 2 ай бұрын
My late father in law came into contact with many of the Royal family in the course of his work. He said the only one he couldn’t stand was the Queen mother.
Matt Hill
Matt Hill 4 күн бұрын
I remember reading a comment on one of these videos from someone who said that their relative was servant to The King and Queen Consort and she would regularly put them down and King George XI on one occasion, after his wife had left the room embarrassingly said to them "So sorry..." Obviously I'm some random person quoting another random person so feel free to take that with a pinch of salt.
John Dean
John Dean Ай бұрын
@Ellie #PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Dont worry about writing to me please. It obviously is not possible to be rational about you.
Ellie  #PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
Ellie #PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Ай бұрын
@John Dean right. because you MUST be perfectly perfect in order to suss out cruelty in someone else 🙄 i can’t call Putin out for war crimes just because i’m imperfect…. is that what you’re saying?
John Dean
John Dean Ай бұрын
Wow...and I suppose he was perfect. LOL
freedom for فلسطين
freedom for فلسطين Ай бұрын
@Ellie #PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim lol
Twmpa
Twmpa 2 ай бұрын
It should come as no surprise that someone born at the very end of the 19th century would have attitudes and prejudices that are considered unacceptable in the present day. Having said that, this video does appear to be a reasonably accurate portrait of the Queen Mother. Also, King George VI died on 6 Feb 1952 not 22 Jan.
Sheila Nixon
Sheila Nixon 4 ай бұрын
My aunt's neighbour was the nannie/governess to the Queen Mother's brother and his family , before marrying a manager of Menzies/ Wh Smiths. Nora said that she was very unkind to the Earl of Glamis' servants, who were normally treated with great courtesy. The staff were glad when she and the little princesses went back to London. Being born in an earlier generation is no excuse for rudeness.
clarissaharlow
clarissaharlow 2 күн бұрын
@Victoria Froggatt you lost all credibility when you mentioned David Icke
MX-5 Miata
MX-5 Miata 6 күн бұрын
*Being born in an earlier generation is no excuse for rudeness.* But, my dear, it IS a valid reason for rudeness. Just as slavery was an accepted culture in the 1700s and not in the 1900s, being rude in Queenie Mummy's era WAS the-then accepted culture, and not today. You cannot backdate your current culture to an earlier generation. It's not like backdating a cheque. That was then , this is now. Get a grip on your thinking, silly woman.
1234cheerful
1234cheerful 7 күн бұрын
@Dara Velour So many details in these lineages! Thanks, I had not heard of the Glücksburg name before.
BossMadam MOOSE
BossMadam MOOSE 7 күн бұрын
The Queen Mother is not nice as the other thinks she is.
Dara Velour
Dara Velour 9 күн бұрын
@a commentator Greek throne was offered to a son of Danish king Christian IX, from Glücksburg dynasty and it was later than 1830
Marion Bayley
Marion Bayley 3 ай бұрын
The Queen’s whole demeanour changed once her mother died - she is now much more relaxed and out-going!
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands Күн бұрын
@Ronnie That nobody will be forgiving if their DIL were caught like that.
Ronnie
Ronnie 2 күн бұрын
@Grassy Sands it was reported that once the Queen mother picked up the phone, that was the end of poor old Fergie. Possibly she insisted The Queen booted her out of the family for her reprehensible behaviour. Philip was the one to give Fergie the bad news, by all reports at the time. Some said he didn't even have to give her a bollocking just threw the news paper down in front of her. With the photo on the front page. Apparently Fergie couldn't get out of there fast enough. These stories have never changed over the years, so there could be a modicum of truth in them. But you can bet while the Queen may have been more forgiving towatd Fergie, the Queen Mum and Philip were not.
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 2 күн бұрын
@clarissaharlow What?
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 2 күн бұрын
@Ronnie hat did the Queen mother do about the toe sucking incident?
clarissaharlow
clarissaharlow 2 күн бұрын
@Grassy Sands ĺ
Truth Teller
Truth Teller 2 ай бұрын
Years ago i traveled with friends for the first time overseas and visited their home country of Vietnam then ended up in Thailand. There one day I was on a day trip and spent the entire day with a couple from England but working in India who worked for the British High Commissioner's Office and their son. during our talks I brought up how Grandmotherly and nice the Queen Mum seemed whereas both adults told me she was in fact she's a B$#&H literally and was involved in the King, or future King who renounced the throne to marry the American Wallace Simpson stepping down from the title as the Queen Mum didn't want him to marry a "Lowly Commoner". She wasn't what she portrayed publicly at all.
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 3 күн бұрын
@Joan True, but they were trying to stop the war and the globalists allowed it to happen.
Joan
Joan 4 күн бұрын
@Grassy Sands He had no control over the war. He was pro Hitler but I don't think he manipulated the was, it was on the cards from the end of the 1st world war.
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
@Rory Hand Would have been better he never abdicated because there would be no WW2 and communist Russia would have been destroyed. Then the west would not be a mutliculti mess it is today. We fought the wrong side.
Rory Hand
Rory Hand 2 ай бұрын
...King Edward VIII was also known for years before meeting Wallis Simpson to be a philanderer, having numerous affairs with married women.
wayinfront1
wayinfront1 2 ай бұрын
@Rory Hand Yes, he and Wallis were very much pro-Hitler, to the extent that they would have entirely betrayed Britain if they'd remained in positions of power.
Izzy
Izzy 4 ай бұрын
All my life I closely examined the TV coverage of the Queen Mother walking with Queen Elizabeth over here in the US and thought this woman does not appear to me as being the "Much beloved Queen Mother." She looked like an extremely overbearing self absorbed woman much like my own mother. Then I learned she kept bullying that extremely unlikeable Wallis Simpson even after the entire world detested her and she was royally defeated. Only the meanest vindictive bully would behave in that manner. Now I know who Princess Margaret took after. Sure sounds like Prince Andrew too.
Sheilagh Brosky
Sheilagh Brosky Ай бұрын
@Irene Mackie Margaret was like that to everyone. She was more royal than the rest of the family.
James Allen
James Allen Ай бұрын
She should have been bullied, her and the failed king were well known Nazi supporters.
Irene Mackie
Irene Mackie 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Margaret was nasty to Diana. A snob and holier than thou
Renata Ostertag
Renata Ostertag 2 ай бұрын
She hated Wallis Simpson because Wallis knew the truth about her and her background. Her husband David told her and they always laughed about her and her ridiculous ways of acting like a "high-born" person. Due to the handicapped Albert (her husband) she was lifted up from obscurity into fame.
missisfreddiemercury
missisfreddiemercury 2 ай бұрын
@Naeema Patel I agree also about Anne. Never liked her or Margaret.
Orion88
Orion88 2 ай бұрын
She was haughty rather controlling on her family, drank too much and was utterly traumatized by the war. She was the ultimate stage mother and power behind two thrones. She advised everyone to act late Victorian. To some degree it drove everyone nuts and yet to another it extended the monarchs image as “perfect”. Naturally the children all had very messy marriages except the youngest. Consequently the UK ended up having a very messed up idea that emotions are embarrassing, lying is better. The worst that ignoring problems and people is good policy. Many are desperately unhappy people chasing rigid empty dignities and rebelling often falling off the wagon spectacularly. Sexually they can be very lonely. With the new King much of this will dissolve. Queen Mum was the one who pressurized her daughter to extend the Postwar theme. For 70 years. Indeed.
guest user
guest user Ай бұрын
The Queen Mom was born in 1900, a completely different time with a very different mindset and view of the world. Plus, she was born and raised a Lady, daughter of an Earl with close ties to the Royal Family. She was educated to live a privileged life amidst the noble families of Britain. Her views and behavior might be shocking and upsetting to us now but in her time, it was very much accepted and shared. She’s a child of her times, not our times.
Mila Cruz
Mila Cruz Сағат бұрын
Idk a lot of people that met her or knwe her back in the day, don't seem to have a positive view of her. Nasty people are nasty, raised in whichever time.
Hazel Pearson
Hazel Pearson 29 күн бұрын
Lots of people were born at the same time in the same circumstances and were kind lovely people, her reputation is one of snobbish superiority to almost everyone and not an easy person to work for. She was a bitch and there was no excuse for her condescending bullying behaviour.
J A
J A Ай бұрын
😅🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
Wendy Morrison
Wendy Morrison 4 ай бұрын
She was all of these things and determined to hold power. Her double title, Queen Elizabeth Queen Mother. Its telling. She decided that her daughter wasnt competent to make decisions, resented Prince Phillip, bullied Margaret into sacrificing love. The public persona? Its all smoke and mirrors
gillian bergh
gillian bergh Ай бұрын
@Mary Wenzel She knew she could not be officially 'Queen Regent', as her daughter was over 21 when she ascended the throne. It's unclear if she considered such a title - and imo what mattered to her was being the power behind the throne.
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman Ай бұрын
Rest In Peace to both the queens
gillian bergh
gillian bergh Ай бұрын
Her correct title on being widowed, was 'Dowager Queen', and the double one was one she gave herself.
Heather Yearwood
Heather Yearwood 2 ай бұрын
I saw that film Enter the Dragon....I called up the end scene and made QM the baddie, try this exercise it is pacifying
MsJubjubbird
MsJubjubbird 2 ай бұрын
@Paradox 1979 she could still be a royal actually. The correct story is she would have to give up being queen. It was unlikely she would be queen by that stage anyway. Elizabeth already had two kids. She just said she wasn't committed enough
Joan
Joan 4 күн бұрын
A South African who was at school with my Aunt's in Kimberly married a Bowes-Lyon. She was a lady in waiting to the Queen. She was an extremely beautiful woman, very kind and gentle.
Howard Maryon-Davis
Howard Maryon-Davis 2 ай бұрын
The Bose-Lyons family were “coal-owners” meaning that they owned and administrated several coal mines in Britain. They were cruel and heartless towards their employees, only interested in money. In some places in Britain where there coal mines were, to this day the local people spit on the ground if you mention the Bose-Lyons name.
Nicky L
Nicky L 2 күн бұрын
Can you not get the spelling correct?
teller12
teller12 8 күн бұрын
@Dora Syiem whatever
Dora Syiem
Dora Syiem Ай бұрын
No wonder for no reason, I never liked the QM and to think that she despised the ( L) Prince Phillip who had blue vein like her Royal husband but unlike her. I am not from England either but since the time I first watched her videos , I never like that QM , there was something about her which simply could not like her.
Look_Who's_Squawking
Look_Who's_Squawking Ай бұрын
I know a Bowes-Lyon who brags of her family ancestry. She is narcissistic, rascist and thinks money will buy spirituality (Simony), not putting in the real work to become a better person . What a cursed family.
Pedantic Radiator
Pedantic Radiator Ай бұрын
@Ottonie Oswald no
Louis
Louis 2 ай бұрын
Actually, her sister-in-law Alice, Duchess of Gloucester was the oldest member of the royals when she died at 102 (2 months short of 103) in 2004.
Louis
Louis 2 ай бұрын
@Glyn Jones Still a royal.
Glyn Jones
Glyn Jones 2 ай бұрын
Aunt
Jennifer Holden
Jennifer Holden 2 ай бұрын
I looked after an old lady who as a young girl was a tweenie at Glamis Castle. She told many a tale out of school, it would make your hair curl. When they say only the good die young, says it all.
mrpurple11
mrpurple11 3 күн бұрын
Lol op's prose makes it look like she was about to tell a tale herself
MX-5 Miata
MX-5 Miata 6 күн бұрын
Glamis is haunted. Many will attest to that.
Jennifer Holden
Jennifer Holden Ай бұрын
@WildBlueYonder Well to use the vernacular 1. Trollope 2. Troublemaker 3. Any female who went to work there, would be sacked post haste if she was even remotely attractive (didn’t like competition) 5,
Sue Jane
Sue Jane 2 ай бұрын
@WildBlueYonder Read Lady Colin Campbell's book on the Queen Mother.
michael murratti
michael murratti 2 ай бұрын
For Sure! God doesn't want them! Not that they would end up in Heaven anyway!
William De Warrenne
William De Warrenne 4 ай бұрын
I worked with a man who had been a sergeant in the Coldstream guards, he told us ,that when she inspected them on parade, she would purposely find fault with any one guard ,and have him put on a charge just out of spite.
Ashamed to be English
Ashamed to be English Ай бұрын
@SymphonyBrahms your mum lied to you.
Ashamed to be English
Ashamed to be English Ай бұрын
serves them right for being sycophants.
Brian Browne
Brian Browne 3 ай бұрын
A trait she passed on to her promiscuous daughter Margaret
Jessie MacGregor
Jessie MacGregor 3 ай бұрын
@Scott McIntosh My parents would agree with you they thought King George & Queen Elizabeth were true & honourable to there people both admired greatly in our district in the North East of Scotland. My Father was in the 1st Battalion of the Gordon Highlanders served in the front line in WW1 at the Battle of the Soam & also Ypres both extremely fierce battles he got gassed & shelled crashed a motor bike, broke his nose but he survived. After the war he took up farming started as a crofter had many children. He disliked king Edward marked him down as a waster and was so grateful he Abidacated HRH Queen Eluzabeth ( the Queen Mother) was a wonderful support to her husband and was well thought of.
SymphonyBrahms
SymphonyBrahms 3 ай бұрын
He lied to you.
Adam Frankenberg
Adam Frankenberg 3 ай бұрын
I met her once, at a formal event, I was about 4 and 3/4. I ran straight into her at top speed and then began to exercistedly tell her about a frog I'd just seen. She was very nice about it.
Ashamed to be English
Ashamed to be English Ай бұрын
@Kari34 B the royals love young kids. Especially sweaty Andrew.
Kari34 B
Kari34 B Ай бұрын
Maybe she was nice to really little kids?
gillian bergh
gillian bergh 2 ай бұрын
@David Renwick Or ask if the Frog wore a beret and carry a string of garlic? Ha ha!
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman 3 ай бұрын
Wow what year was that in?
Saoirsehaslonglegs
Saoirsehaslonglegs 3 ай бұрын
@David Renwick lol
History Roadshow
History Roadshow 4 ай бұрын
Timestamps! 0:00 Intro 1:13 Early Years 2:52 Bertie Beckons 4:33 Wedding 6:23 Year of three kings 9:13 World War 11:02 Queen Mum 12:49 The Princesses 15:00 Bad Call 18:04 Remembering Thank you for watching my latest video 🙏🏻 Did you miss this? Maria, the Mad Queen of Portugal kzpost.info/ex/p6etkpOA1qxlnZo/bejne Enjoy your week, and see you again soon! Jon 🤴🏻
Gail Waters
Gail Waters 4 ай бұрын
Her low view of African management seems to be correct. African governments have certainly proved her to be spot on. Especially the buffoons in South Africa.
Paula Soares
Paula Soares 4 ай бұрын
Maria the Pious of Portugal was a real Queen and very much loved. Maria and the Queen mother are like a balm to arsenic. Thank you for the documentary.
Just Me
Just Me 4 ай бұрын
Can I ask a question? What is the music that is playing between 1:25 and 3:00 minutes?
Linda Evans
Linda Evans Ай бұрын
Always knew she had a nasty side as you saw her as a sweet little old lady but she had hard eyes so your description of her was spot on.
Rebecca Lee
Rebecca Lee 26 күн бұрын
You right about her eyes.
AJA Deacon
AJA Deacon 3 ай бұрын
Although she was in a very privileged position and had the capacity to make peoples lives better she choose to lead a very self centred life l A shallow life of self indulgence and putting people down to make herself feel better. The irony that she thought the Africans could not govern themselves when she was not exactly an intellect - far from it ! Nobody in the end could speak in any loving admiration of her
Anna Al
Anna Al Ай бұрын
Many people in comments excuse QM as being born in another area. I am 64 and knew many people of her era, my grandma and mom in law included. They were amazing, kind, beautiful people and I knew more humans like them. QM was a rude, unpleasant woman and I doubt that being born more recently would change her. We have people like her in our times too.
Dan Re
Dan Re 19 күн бұрын
@Sundance also evil is a strong word she’s flawed just like us she’s more humbled than the rest of the royals (excluding diana)
Dan Re
Dan Re 19 күн бұрын
@Sundance nah its the mordern age if u cant read typos then have grammarly by ur side or sum but anywho using diana as an excuse to say she learnt nothing is pretty pathetic tbh even if she was kind to charles but yall do know that he is her grandson right? how could a grandmother not love her grandson? her views on marriage was different from others she saw it as something permanent for life
Sundance
Sundance 20 күн бұрын
@Dan Re I disagree. She learnt nothing, a leopard doesn't change it's spots. She was an evil woman. Look no further at how she treated Diana. Helping Charlie and Cammie to cheat on Diana, allowing them to use her residence for their sexual escapades. Once the heir and the spare were born, Diana wasn't of any use to her or her daughter Elizabeth. So Charlie spoilt brat that he was and still is, was given carte blanche to do as he liked with her blessing. As for your racist family the wheel turns. And do check your comments for errors before hitting the reply tag.
Dan Re
Dan Re 20 күн бұрын
racism was more common and taught back then even if ur family wasn’t raised with it many were my family is still racist to this day but QM even grewing up thru that time decide to educate herself on the world the least she did was acknowledge her mistakes and learn to change her mindset
Eliza Grogan
Eliza Grogan 26 күн бұрын
@siriuslyconfused1 I agree with you. My paternal grandmother was the same. She grew up in a totally white community. She was 21 when she first saw a black person in the flesh. She didn't like what some others said about him, being racist when that word was not in use. She had a love for all decent people, regardless of their colour or nationality. I adored her. She was a loving grandmother and teacher.
Sam Wright
Sam Wright 4 ай бұрын
My dad hated the royals and the older I get the more some of them sicken me. Andrew being the worst, not just for this last thing but the privilege and blatant hateful behaviour toward staff.
Ronnie
Ronnie 2 ай бұрын
Let's hope the Queen's corgis get the chance to tear them up.
ODF
ODF 2 ай бұрын
I think the Epstein Scandal will ultimately benefit him. He was flying way too high for way too long. In interviews he was appalling: stupid, lazy, and self-amused. The only effective road to humility is humiliation, and he has had more than his share of that.
Mary West
Mary West 2 ай бұрын
@Stuff McStuff They are worse. Much more so, because there is Political donor. Owners.
Stuff McStuff
Stuff McStuff 2 ай бұрын
@NewHampshireBoy You say that, but the USA has its own version of Royalty. Political Dynasties. Which, in reality, are not really any different. Just minus all the pomp and ceremony.
Sam Wright
Sam Wright 2 ай бұрын
@Orzog think Andrews a liability
Doug Widdowson
Doug Widdowson 4 ай бұрын
My grandmother was parlourmaid in one of the houses that ms Bowes-Lyon lived as a young woman. She treated the servants with disdain and as objects to be used. All about image, and nothing about empathy. A thoroughly distasteful entitled person. People were to kowtow to her or be punished
jan jan
jan jan 3 күн бұрын
Megan M syndrome I think
kevin parker
kevin parker Ай бұрын
@Helen Lesley A good story?
N R
N R Ай бұрын
Sounds like Charles.
Mary West
Mary West 2 ай бұрын
That is obvious the mantra of a previous era. Which we we will indentured to serve again, more than many of us are now. What do you think this Great Reset is going to lead to? But more of the great entitled to more inter generational control, elitism, feudal social conformity? All planned control by the few over the many. Who scares, who more?
Leni
Leni 2 ай бұрын
@Robert BARRETT I'm not sure. Unfortunately my Nan died a few weeks back so I'm unable to find out. But all I know it was during a short period where my Welsh family member worked in London.
Richard Whitten
Richard Whitten 2 ай бұрын
My maternal grandmother was in service with the Wellesley familiy during WW1. (family of the Duke of Wellington) In a family discussion, Elizabeth Bowes Lyon, the Queen Mum, was mentioned. One of our relations up in Scotland delivered milk to the Bowes Lyon household. He said the young Elizabeth was a terrible, stuck up little snob to him when he was delivering. My Gran knew so much about what was going on, combined with my Aunty Theresa, who was in service at Blenheim Pa!ace at the same time. With hindsight I would have delved into their memories. Too late now!
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
People say anything about any rich family. I come from a family (mother's side) that had money, but my Dad's side didn't. People thought I was stuck up because I was part of that family. But those who knew me well, knew that I wasn't like that at all. Also, my family, the older generation has done a lot of charitable work and also helped many people get an education. People will say awful things about rich families because they are jealous. Now I do admit my generation there are stuck up people, but I'm not one of them.
Savina King
Savina King 2 ай бұрын
She refused him because she wanted the brother. She loved the privelidge of being royal so much that she favoured Charles and when Prince Harry was little, openly treated William completely differently. Her daughter Margaret knew her mother was jealous of her because she was born royal. Her father was quite prepared to let her marry her love, but his early death allowed mommy dearest to get her claws into the relationship and stir up problems.
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman Ай бұрын
@MTL Exactly lol
Snow Hare
Snow Hare 2 ай бұрын
@rochel hirsch OK, I stand corrected. Yes, you are correct.
rochel hirsch
rochel hirsch 2 ай бұрын
@Snow Hare wrong. He started the affair with her when she was married and so was he.
Snow Hare
Snow Hare 2 ай бұрын
@rochel hirsch She was a divorcee when Charles was enthralled by her. Charles couldn't marry her.
rochel hirsch
rochel hirsch 2 ай бұрын
@Snow Hare that makes no sense she didn't want to divorce her husband she was happy with him.
T H
T H 2 ай бұрын
I'm English and my great grandmother was more or less exactly the same age as the queen mother: she would always tell me how massively unpopular the queen mother was with many people of that age group. She said the queen mother had a terrible reputation as an unscrupulous gold digger whose only concern was to throw herself at the highest bidder.
Sandra Stroomer
Sandra Stroomer 2 ай бұрын
she was quite the drunk and spendthrift also
U Call
U Call 2 ай бұрын
@anon Dont start that. This is aboutr the queen mother.
anon
anon 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a certain American actress
Liliveta Flowers
Liliveta Flowers 2 ай бұрын
@andyrjs What do you mean? Queen mother had relations with those lads??😉😉😜😜
Be Yourself
Be Yourself 2 ай бұрын
@Shirley Minassian Her daughters, Margaret was pretty and very free with her body…
Leon Matterson
Leon Matterson 4 ай бұрын
My mother was a member of the aristocracy and commented many times just how very dreadful, rude and haughty this woman was to all and sundry. Apparently she treated all with contempt and only those of absolute equal stature were treated with some form of kindness.
Abe Froman
Abe Froman Ай бұрын
@Eleanor Crawford Diana was a bint!
Sundance
Sundance Ай бұрын
@Samantha Lee London is not my idea of fun, nor is the rest of the UK, I was there for 3 days and couldn't wait to leave. The weather is awful, Greece has cool history as has most of eastern Europe. I think Britain, colonialism comes to mind. Thanks but no thanks. Am quite happy to visit any country other than Britain.
Samantha Lee
Samantha Lee Ай бұрын
@Sundance People would still visit... Trust me... 🇬🇧 has A LOT of cool history besides the "Royals." London is just awesome in general... A LOT of people around the world do NOT want to visit the 🇬🇧 cuz the "Royals" have way too much trashy, inappropriate drama as of now...
JR D
JR D Ай бұрын
@Samantha Lee Yes; who knows?
Samantha Lee
Samantha Lee Ай бұрын
@david dougall The "Royal Family" sees everybody else as inferior... The "Royals" should probably start hanging out with "regular" people so they can find out for themselves that there's no such concept of inferior people... Referring to other people as inferior is pure ignorance...
Kathleen Clark
Kathleen Clark 3 ай бұрын
Yes. She was responsible for Margaret’s rather tragic life without the love of her life. But even worse in my view is poor Charles. I know many aren’t impressed with him but he has been stuck for his entire life waiting in the wings to fulfill his role as the monarch. The Queen Mum insisted that he get married and approved of Diana as the likely candidate. He always loved Camilla but he deferred to his duty and did what he was told to the ruination of both Charles’ and Diana’s lives. Note that he and Camilla while both “free” waited until the QM’s death to wed. And look how completely happy he is now. I have always felt really sorry for him. The QM was indeed a bit of a pill.
Joan
Joan 4 күн бұрын
@Jud Cylorn Diana was very neglected as a child and young teenager. Most likely the lot of many children of that era with divorce becoming more common.
I'm Not Sus
I'm Not Sus 29 күн бұрын
Diana was a pretty nice guy though but she was not Charles ideal wife at all.
Karl Mylnere
Karl Mylnere Ай бұрын
Kathleen Clark , you are spot on , the whole scenario could have been avoided if Charles had shown a bit of steel and ignored the QM and Mountbatten , but he was schooled in the manner of the times and went along with what he perceived to be his duty. Different days , different times , in truth Diana showed a callous disregard for the wife's of the men she bedded and then gave an Oscar winning performance playing the wronged wife , also a quite nasty piece of work whatever the deranged Diana freaks think.
Jud Cylorn
Jud Cylorn Ай бұрын
@Marie-Christine B. That may be. However, it certainly did not get better after her experience. We all know that certain conditions can get better or they can get worse. It's called triggering..............And you are repeating the bulimia episodes only because the MSM media reported this. Unless, you personally know the late princess, you cannot know this for sure. None of us are privy to the private lives of these people. Stating, " Diana had bulimia............" is not experiential knowledge. You are parroting what others have told you. We must keep this in mind.
Marie-Christine B.
Marie-Christine B. Ай бұрын
@Jud Cylorn Diana had bulimia crises as a teenager, long before she met Charles.
Jill Ruben
Jill Ruben Күн бұрын
Wonderful video. Thank you for sharing all, not just the positives, of the queen Mum.
Richie Taylor
Richie Taylor 2 ай бұрын
There are some big problems in how this is put together. Far too much of the latter part of it relies on hearsay. There can be any number of reasons for certain individuals to attack the woman’s character, especially since gossip is practically the official sport of the upper classes. For all we know, they may have been been made out of anger at a perceived slight of some kind, and ought not to be given much weight as historical sources. This becomes a little more serious, especially when it comes to her attitudes towards other races, and towards Jews. The tone of this piece seems to be suggesting that the makers not only believe this to be true, they present this as though it were fact. I don’t say that any of it is untrue, but I don’t say that it is true either, simply because there is insufficient evidence, beyond the tittle-tattle (or worse, second hand tittle-tattle) of a handful of people with, at best, tenuous links to the Queen Mother. If you wish to include this sort of evidence, you ought to make some comment or assessment of the strength of it, or at the very least, makes some effort to direct the viewer to where they might view the evidence themselves and therefore come to their own judgement regarding its veracity. Otherwise, this can’t be seen as history, only a hatchet job.
Peter L Baldwin
Peter L Baldwin 3 ай бұрын
There is a story concerning the late Queen Mother which I rather enjoy. She was guest of honour at a particular "Royal Command Performance" and afterwards the cast were lined up back stage to meet Her Majesty, as sahe proceeded down the line muttering the customary pleasantries shye came to a well known female star of the London stage, who curtsied before The Queen Mother and as the actress rose, Her Majesty enquired "And what do you do my dear..?". "Actually Your Majesty I am in "A Chorus Line"(The celebrated Bob Fosse Musical) answered the actress. Her Majesty looked momentarily taken aback, at having been introduced to somebody of seemingly "lower social status", unaware of the Fosse musical, and merely said with a frozen expression, "EOHh..", before sailing majestically on to the next in line..!!
MX-5 Miata
MX-5 Miata 6 күн бұрын
Yep, the old hag was truly an _evil_ old hag.
S N
S N 4 ай бұрын
Never understood the adoration for someone who led such a unearned, charmed, and ostentatious existence. Even her hardships were endured in great comfort & propped up by legions of servants. I don’t revile her, just no point to all the public affection.
Tyler Kochman
Tyler Kochman 6 күн бұрын
I think it is because she was associated with the war effort through her husband.
Renata Ostertag
Renata Ostertag 2 ай бұрын
@Kimberley Smith She was NOT born into a "charmed" life. From an early age (4 or 5 years or so) she attached herself to her birth mother's bosses (the Earl and his family) and stepped it up the older she got. By the time she was in her mid-20s, she had her claws into the royal family. The rest is history, as they say.
a commentator
a commentator 3 ай бұрын
@Kimberley Smith she was taught the prayer book etc. she knew.
Jacqueline Homan
Jacqueline Homan 3 ай бұрын
@Kimberley Smith Since she admitted that she "wasn't a nice person", it's fair to say that she DID know better. She knew the difference between right and wrong and how one should treat people. She chose to be vindictive and cruel.
Kimberley Smith
Kimberley Smith 4 ай бұрын
People don’t ask to be born where they are. It might not excuse behaviours but is it her fault if she knew no better?
bronte1987
bronte1987 2 ай бұрын
I read that after turning down Bertie's marriage proposals so many times and he became sad and depressed, that his mother Queen Mary told Miss Bowes---Lyons that if she didn't accept her son's hand in marriage, that she could forget about making an advantages marriage with anyone else from high society. So for Bertie the third time or fifth time was the charm. 😐😏
bronte1987
bronte1987 7 күн бұрын
@KittyGirl_theTortie Most definitely. 😐
KittyGirl_theTortie
KittyGirl_theTortie 12 күн бұрын
What in the world did that man see in that plain looking woman? He was way too good looking for her. All the brothers were surprisingly handsome inspite having Queen Mary for a mother (they took after their paternal grandmother and father I suppose). Queen Elizabeth, Charles and Anne definitely inherited Queen Mary's unfortunate looks.
gillian bergh
gillian bergh Ай бұрын
It looks like her punishment was for him to die so many years before she did.
Susi Emily
Susi Emily Ай бұрын
You've been reading Lady Colin Campbell's book! I'm halfway through it at the moment. It's enlightening.
S Regan
S Regan 2 ай бұрын
Bertie should have had some more self-respect! If a woman says no, you can try once or twice again (in case it was just shyness). I've turned down dudes I actually wanted to date out of shyness. But after attempt #3, for both hers and your sake, you must give up the ghost. It's quite shameful to yourself and also rude to the girl to kinda harrass her into dating you.
Steffan Hoffmann
Steffan Hoffmann 2 ай бұрын
My late Great Aunt, worked for the Prince of Wales at Windsor, for a few years before he abdicated. After official lunches dinners etc. He would make sure there was no waste. Told the staff to take the food etc. When the Queen Mother took over, she called a meeting of the same staff. Told them things would change. Any waste was to be given to animals etc. Or thrown out. She was known as "The Smiling Serpent" amongst the staff.
Brian Whittington
Brian Whittington 2 ай бұрын
You have to think how more was being learnt about food hygiene, display and storage conditions in post war Britain. You wouldn't safely consume food, even with today's preservatives, that had been sat open in a warm room, exposed to all sorts of bacteria for hours, then return it to cold storage.
neytiri avatar
neytiri avatar 2 ай бұрын
The fat short serpent was a witch
Eileen Pritchard
Eileen Pritchard 2 ай бұрын
I DON'T like wasting any food ,give it to the staff if they want it END OF.😥😥😥😥
Daemon Targaryen
Daemon Targaryen 2 ай бұрын
Sure……
Robert M Woodley
Robert M Woodley 2 ай бұрын
You'll notice most of the negative comments are based on hearsay. In the experience of people who were there, including her staff, she was reported as being warm and able to put anyone at their ease, a great support to her husband the King Emperor and despite demanding respect for her great position, able to inspire love in the poorest who she was glad to be able to join in being bombed by the Luftwaffe. She famously said, "Thank God we have been bombed! Now I can look the East End in the face" or similar. Doesn't sound like a snob to me. When asked if the Royal Family would leave London being bombed daily, she said 'The children won't go without me. I won't leave the King. And the King will never leave.' Thus throughout the Second World War the Queen and her children shared the dangers and difficulties of the rest of the nation. Her daughter Elizabeth II, now deceased, also famously could speak with anyone and has never been accused of snobbery. A slight distance but not snobbery.
Ebony Kaminski
Ebony Kaminski 2 ай бұрын
Negating hearsay with hearsay 😂🤣😂
Alith Anar
Alith Anar 2 ай бұрын
Mostly africans, asians, indians, and muslims are always negative of the royal family
aharon59
aharon59 2 ай бұрын
My father was a musician, we lived in Ireland, and I remember we had some visitors from a British band sometime around the mid 1970`s who had a great time recounting stories of the Queen Mum being driven home completely drunk almost nightly. The joke was that she stayed alive for so long largely because she was pickled. A the same time, it must be said that they seemed to like her more for this and, by and large, I always got the impression that she was admired as much for her weaknesses as for her strengths.
Cyril Marasigan
Cyril Marasigan 6 күн бұрын
Well she sure loved alcohols because it is alleged that someone would sneak a alcohol for her during her time as a patient in hospital
Janet pugliesi
Janet pugliesi 4 ай бұрын
You did a great job with this. You showed both sides of her. To say she was a complex individual might be an understatement.
Roger Carroll
Roger Carroll 4 ай бұрын
She was emotionally complex, but she was actually rather simple mnded: a trait of the Brit royals. Not a bright bunch, just filthy rich.
Trevor Millar
Trevor Millar 4 ай бұрын
"Complex individual" A polite way of saying someone is a total arsehole.
History Roadshow
History Roadshow 4 ай бұрын
It was tough trying to balance a story that gives both sides to what as you say was a complex life. Thanks Janet 😊
skp
skp 4 ай бұрын
I met her for most of a day in 1965, when I was 10. Maybe it was a child’s instinct to see/feel beneath the surface image, but I recoiled from her, finding something rather unpleasant there. It was nothing she said or did specifically, as she was well enough mannered, if superior. I didn’t much like her, or think well of her, thereafter.
skp
skp 4 ай бұрын
@Jake Sugarman She was the President of the boarding school where I was a pupil.
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman 4 ай бұрын
How did you meet her?
Devishi Aggarwal
Devishi Aggarwal 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this video. At least there is someone who has the courage to speak out the truth of these overly revered British monarchs - or should I say ruthless tyrants?
Devishi Aggarwal
Devishi Aggarwal 8 сағат бұрын
What sort of a terrible woman she was! Quite like her predecessors, a big racist and a big hypocrite! The so called "Empress Consort of India"! Who is she to oppose the democratic elections in India? Who is she to judge Africans? Does she have the capability of governing? Oh, she never did that actually. And still, she judges others? Embodiment of decency and courage? So funny, she was the opposite of all that. Her daughter Elizabeth II seems to be no better! That she is revered as a grandmother by some Britons just shows their hollowness. Thanks for bringing out this truth in front of the whole world! By the way, there are two factual inaccuracies. India gained independence in 1947 and not 1948. Plus, Elizabeth Bowes Lyon is not the longest lived member of the royal family, she was overtaken by her sister in law Alice, Duchess of Gloucester.
hope2013
hope2013 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. At last someone tells the truth about this awful woman. Margret was not nice too. Prince Philip didn't like her probably. The Queen is so beautiful and loved. May she stay healthy and happy.
Martin Farrell
Martin Farrell Ай бұрын
@Srijeeta Sikder Margaret looked down on non royals. Apparently Diana & Sarah were insulted by her
E Arnold
E Arnold Ай бұрын
@Joanne Butcher... Prince Philip did his duty yes but he was arrogant and pompous and liked belittling interviewers and journalists. (He was very handsome when young though).
E Arnold
E Arnold Ай бұрын
@Srijeeta Sikder ....Margaret was a drinker, smoker, and serial sleep around. She probably felt inferior to her sister though.
Srijeeta Sikder
Srijeeta Sikder 2 ай бұрын
Why wasn't Margaret good though?
Drobium77
Drobium77 2 ай бұрын
It's amazing to see how the Queen was so much loved as genuine person. And that 5.1 billion people watched her funeral, is a testament to that. God Rest Her Majesty
Lolly Riley
Lolly Riley 3 ай бұрын
She actually visited the east end during wartime with great reluctance. My Grandma heard her say ' I will visit this dirty area and meet its inhabitants, but I will not touch them' My grandmas parents were in service to a family and they were quite laid back, so my grandma often played with their children and was tutored with them, as the area they lived was very remote.
Heather Yearwood
Heather Yearwood 2 ай бұрын
Sure she didn't touch them, she paid for it with a longer life...God knows her somewhat antiseptic life would not have withstood a shot of gastro interiors and she may have died from.blood poisoning or excess of boils ...ha ha ha 😂 what a contrite racist snob.
Cynthia Tolman
Cynthia Tolman 4 ай бұрын
I kept the previous comment in mind watching the video, as it is a very wise comment. The Royals are all a product of their upbringing and the times, I agree. The Queen Mother did hold her husband and family together during the abdication, and worked hard for her country the way she'd been taught. I was given by my Mother, that both she and my Grandmother didn't care for her, Mum never did exactly say why other than she was unkind, so my image of her has always been tainted with that. Funny I'm not the only with a grandmother who felt the same.
Unicorn 🦄💜
Unicorn 🦄💜 3 ай бұрын
I met the Queen Mother at Sandown Racecourse 1985 , I was in basic training in the WRAC. She saw us in the crowds in uniform collecting money for the benevolent fund and invited 6 of us girls up to the roof terrace . I was 18 and she was lovely to us 👑
Brenda
Brenda Ай бұрын
She was probably trying to procure fresh blood for her rituals haha
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman 3 ай бұрын
She definitely had a very good side to her. I wish more people would realize that
Gisa W Slonim
Gisa W Slonim Ай бұрын
She was, and still is, remembered as the queen who would appear in the London streets after a night of bombing to speak to survivors of that area during World War 2...the nation adored her!
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
My grandmother loved the Queen mum and QE2.
Annie Franklin
Annie Franklin 2 ай бұрын
A close friend of mine worked as an under under housemaid for her. She said the QM came downstairs every morning with white gloves on and ran her fingers along all surfaces. If there was even one speck of dirt they had to clean the entire room again. They were terrified of her
J.P. Knapp
J.P. Knapp 4 ай бұрын
She always blamed her husband's death on the stress of being king, which he was not naturally suited to and was not prepared for. He smoked like a chimney and died of lung cancer, a disease not caused by stress.
Jo Luffman
Jo Luffman Күн бұрын
In a time when there were no medications to even mood out, the MAOI effects cigarettes have can be invaluable. As someone who managed to quit smoking, I can definitely tell a difference.
Jennifer Dyster
Jennifer Dyster Күн бұрын
Ah but smoking is a response to stress which is why it took off in WW1 the govt gave cigarettes to soldiers because they couldnt deliver safety hygiene or good food but it could manage the solace of tobacco. Repeat in WW2 .
Joan Lightfoot
Joan Lightfoot 3 күн бұрын
@Silly Mamma I was brought up with smokers, I never smoked. Wasn't interested.
jan jan
jan jan 3 күн бұрын
Yes it can be caused by stress as stress can cause a person to smoke
Grassy Sands
Grassy Sands 5 күн бұрын
There are stress induced cancers.
malakai651
malakai651 4 ай бұрын
I remember a documentary on Charles and Diana, the queen mother was very much into horse racing and as grandmother to Charles she sat one afternoon with Diana's grandmother over tea and they discussed the family tree how Diana's line went back to royalty. It was a bit like picking a stud for a mare and deciding if the pedigree was right, so despite what eventually happened between Charles and Diana I was never surprised by the outcome.
Elizabeth Hopkins
Elizabeth Hopkins Ай бұрын
Diana's Grandmother was on of The QM's Ladies in Waiting
Drimmies
Drimmies 4 ай бұрын
Lady C’s biography on the QM aka Cookie is well worth reading. A very calculated character.
Pedantic Radiator
Pedantic Radiator 3 ай бұрын
Very few people in Britain have heard of Lady C and most of those who have do not take her seriously
angela turner
angela turner 3 ай бұрын
Lady C thinks she knows all about everything Royal ,how ?
Ottonie Oswald
Ottonie Oswald 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I have read this too. Thoroughly recommend it. It is an eye opener!!!
Dorian Philotheates
Dorian Philotheates 4 ай бұрын
The Queen Mother may have been a perennial favourite with the public, but there was one person who absolutely adored Elizabeth Bowes Lyon: Elizabeth Bowes Lyon...
Renata Ostertag
Renata Ostertag 2 ай бұрын
I can tell you why Dorian. If you were born in the cow dung in a barn in Scotland (by an unwed, illiterate, temporary stable hand mother), then, were taken in by an Earl and his wife as a playmate for their youngest child when you were 4 or 5 or 6 years old which allowed you to meet other "higher ups" of the Earl, then, finally, meet a disabled royal on his visit to Scotland, have this royal fall in love with you and propose to you, you would absolutely ADORE yourself too, as indeed, most people would. That's her story - from a human d#ng beetle to the royal palaces of the once mightiest nation on Earth. Of course, she is conceded. She would be, wouldn't she?! She made an incredible career.
Dorian Philotheates
Dorian Philotheates 3 ай бұрын
@Tony Ves - Seek and ye shall find...
Tony Ves
Tony Ves 3 ай бұрын
And you know that how ... ?
Dorian Philotheates
Dorian Philotheates 3 ай бұрын
@Saoirsehaslonglegs - 🙂
Saoirsehaslonglegs
Saoirsehaslonglegs 3 ай бұрын
😆🤣👍 excellent remark,very apt
Nicolas Viard
Nicolas Viard Ай бұрын
She shared the prejudices and bigotry of most people of her class during those times. Living in a bubble she could not have a different perspective and never changed. She also had a rudimentary education and was pretty much ignorant on most things.
robert ely
robert ely 4 ай бұрын
Her love and empathy for common folk easily matched that of Thatcher, Theresa May or many of the women that make it to the top of British society.
jan jan
jan jan 3 күн бұрын
not Theresa May a manipulative snob
Raj Ray
Raj Ray 4 ай бұрын
The next PM seems the sort too.
Mystified
Mystified 4 ай бұрын
But at least Thatcher gave people their houses cheap
Ali Henderson
Ali Henderson 4 ай бұрын
@Don´tbehasty Or more hateful harridans like Greer perhaps.
WM R
WM R 2 ай бұрын
My mother met the Queen mother in 1953 as an army camp in Essex after the Canvey Island flood my mother was a nurse in the medical center and was looking after babies from the local area who have been rescued from the floods, she came and spoke with my mother and look down her nose at her she got the shock of a life when my mother opens her mouth because my mum spoke posher than her and she nearly fell over when my mother opened her mouth to speak, rest in peace mother you were a real lady, the most kind generous and compassionate person I have ever known still missed 😥
Lulu Lincoln
Lulu Lincoln 2 ай бұрын
What does "speaking posher mean?"
Robert M Woodley
Robert M Woodley 2 ай бұрын
I am well aware of both people. I called the Queen Mother the Queen because she was the Queen when I was born. My mother met the Queen MOTHER too and she was most solicitous of Mum's War Service medals, speaking with her. Not a snob at all.
WM R
WM R 2 ай бұрын
@Robert M Woodley if you had read this correctly it was the QUEEN MOTHER not the queen , different person💩
Robert M Woodley
Robert M Woodley 2 ай бұрын
This proves nothing! The Queen looked down her nose?? Just because she had good posture. She was never reported as not being friendly to people she met, but in an age of Empire, different to today, she expected the respect due to her position.
Susan Kerr
Susan Kerr 4 ай бұрын
I've known women like her. Notice that the smile never reaches the eyes.
Franklin Stephen
Franklin Stephen 4 ай бұрын
Hello how are you doing?
Proud Cynophile
Proud Cynophile 4 ай бұрын
Cold and soulless like a reptile!
Robert Lyon
Robert Lyon Ай бұрын
Very interesting documentary, Every family has its hero’s and it’s troubles . Our family is ancient and can trace its history back to the 7th century. The queen mother lived through a lot of history and was a large part of helping the country in very difficult days .
Elena Escócia
Elena Escócia 5 күн бұрын
My great uncle worked with the RF during WW2 he said that the Queen Mother wasn’t a nice woman & was hated by a lot of staff. She was disliked by a lot of family members too.
Muso Seven
Muso Seven 2 ай бұрын
My grandmother never liked the "queen mum". I'm inclined to agree. In fact I'd go as far as to say that - especially recently - most royalists are a rarity and have short memories. In addition the royals - who are in my book, in effect, usurpers, merely "Stewards of Gondor", if you will - used Princess Diana as brood mare to bolster their Guelph blood line with some blue blood. Please do not misunderstand me, I don't see Lady Di as doing no wrong, but, most of the time her soul was taller than her shadow, unlike the royals, who's shadows are taller than their souls.
Leon Greenwell
Leon Greenwell 4 ай бұрын
All the old gits in Camberwell, veterans of various services, happily trotted off to her funeral. Old Charlie, (Royal Marines, D-day, and the GLC), found himself among a bunch of Life Guards colonels, and was heard to remark “Thank Gawd we’ve still got a navy”
Whippy99
Whippy99 3 сағат бұрын
My husband was a manager at the QM’s bank. He alluded that some of the goings on would make your hair curl. Out of respect for customer confidentiality, he never shared any details!
Johanna Collier
Johanna Collier 4 ай бұрын
She was not a nice person, she was mean and vindictive!!
Nostalgia
Nostalgia 3 күн бұрын
@Jake Sugarman Unfortunately it's true. I try to look for articles to disapprove that she's not racist etc...But it's TRUE.
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman 3 күн бұрын
@Nostalgia That is very bad if she actually did say that.
Nostalgia
Nostalgia 4 күн бұрын
@Jake Sugarman “Beware the blackamoores “
Legion
Legion Ай бұрын
Shall I trust your judgement? I trust you about as far as I could throw you.
Tony Ves
Tony Ves 3 ай бұрын
Oh gosh. Please post your proof. Or shut the eff up.
Helena McGinty
Helena McGinty 4 күн бұрын
My mother grew up in 1920s and 30s East end of London. Many neighbours worked in the palaces and large houses of the rich. The queen mother was not liked. The "gentry" in general were despised. One comment she recalled was that "they have the morals of rabbits". She only understood that and more when she grew up.
Denise Roe
Denise Roe 7 күн бұрын
I know everyone loved the Queen Mum, she knew how to work the crowd. I also know she was petty and held a grudge for years. She was also from a different time where protocol was of upmost importance. She married up and that would make anyone a little snobbish. To hold Wallis alone accountable for the Kings death is comical, as Berti was a chain smoker. What about David’s abdication? Talk about stress. She did well with the daughter Elizabeth, and after she finally was secure in herself became a wonderful Queen.
Brenda Vale
Brenda Vale 3 ай бұрын
I heard that she often pushed her dogs away with her foot, as she walked around the garden, she wasn’t the sweet old woman we all thought, she ruled behind her daughter with a rod of iron, thus causing many rows between her and Prince Philip!
Renata Ostertag
Renata Ostertag 2 ай бұрын
@Mary Wenzel Yep - 55 years he had to endure her! From 1947 to 2002!
Mary Wenzel
Mary Wenzel 2 ай бұрын
Philip was a legendary harda**, especially to his sensitive eldest son but imagine having to live with that dragon of a mother-in-law in his business for 50 years of hell. That's gotta deserve all the medals they pass out.
Robert Croft
Robert Croft 2 ай бұрын
I do know that because Philip was German she referred to him as 'The Hun'.
Renee Bloggs
Renee Bloggs 5 күн бұрын
Let's just say that Elizabeth, the Queen Mother (aka "Cookie") got away with a great deal more, virtually in every aspect of her life, than she would today.
Who’s who at the zoo ?  🦓
Who’s who at the zoo ? 🦓 4 ай бұрын
Even she herself said that she was ‘nowhere near as nice as people thought she was’. Diana loathed her, and off the record commented that she had really bad breath. Every time I saw the Queen Mother on tv after I heard the comment about her breath, I couldn’t help staring at her teeth and noticing how bad they were and wondering why someone as wealthy as the Queen Mum, didn’t just go and get the very best and most natural looking set of dentures that money could buy. I never understood why ladies with little brown rotting stumps for teeth would bother with lipstick 💄.
Sheila Banks
Sheila Banks 29 күн бұрын
@unicorn YES DENTISTS IN U.K. IF YOUR EXTREMELY WELL OFF. OTHER WISE, YANK YOUR OWN OUT LIKE ME. COUPLE OF TWISTS RIGHT LEFT. PIECE OF KITCHEN ROLL. PULL.! SORTED. 8 OUT UP TO NOW.
Sheila Banks
Sheila Banks 29 күн бұрын
YES ME TOO. LITTLE BROWN STUMPS FOR TEETH. SHOULD HAVE GOT DENTURES LOVE. SOAK IN A GLASS ( LIKE ME) 🤣🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
Mary West
Mary West 2 ай бұрын
@iVenge maybe she felt isolated by her own creed. Those whom we're so cruel to her, and could not comprehend that although she was an Aristocrat Princess Diana was bought up to treat others as her equal.
mkptrsn
mkptrsn 2 ай бұрын
@ericalbany maybe in England, but older people where I live went to the dentist.
Gini 2522
Gini 2522 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
gillian bergh
gillian bergh Ай бұрын
I remember how I heard the news of her death. I was at work (I'm a healthcare assistant) and one patient in a dormitory had their TV on. Suddenly the National Anthem was being played. My first thought was 'England must have won at something.' (I'm not into sport.) One of the Royal Standards was being flown. It was only later that I realised it was the Queen Mother's flag.
Andy Hemsted
Andy Hemsted 4 ай бұрын
Have to worry about how accurate and well researched a video is when it gets simple dates wrong
doris martin
doris martin 4 күн бұрын
Also I believe she did meet Wallis earlier on...
SymphonyBrahms
SymphonyBrahms 4 ай бұрын
Nothing that they said on the video can be proved. No sources are named.
Cerys Frost
Cerys Frost 4 ай бұрын
Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, was the longest lived member of the royal family
Tony South
Tony South 4 ай бұрын
Yes, agreed. Some disparaging remarks are made about the Queen Mother, but in most cases, no sources are named. Also, at 17.42 Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) is mentioned, yet a picture of Capetown, South Africa is shown.
Casualeann, That Wrestling Fan
Casualeann, That Wrestling Fan Ай бұрын
just discovered your channel- you have a new fan for certain!
History Roadshow
History Roadshow Ай бұрын
Welcome 😊
Karma & The Phoenix
Karma & The Phoenix 4 ай бұрын
I've heard far worse about this woman. You described her in better terms for sure.
Lisa McCann
Lisa McCann 3 ай бұрын
@Jake Sugarman treated ordinary folk quite poorly. Her insistence on matching Charles with a member of the aristocracy put a whole generation of pain in motion, despite the positive side of Diana and her sons. She could be incredibly cruel, racist and classist.
Susan Vaughan-Schiele
Susan Vaughan-Schiele 3 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in knowing too!
Jake Sugarman
Jake Sugarman 4 ай бұрын
What did she do so bad??
Paul Joseph Buggle
Paul Joseph Buggle 4 ай бұрын
My Granny who had the same age always told me that the Queen mother was a horrible person and a selfish snob.
Will Hovell
Will Hovell 4 ай бұрын
She was consort to a very effective and reluctant King , whom took over from his brother Nazi supporting Edward VIII & his fascist wife Wallis. She was long lived and had her own private pursuits. She was popular in the East End during the war (unlike Churchill whom was booed). She never forgave the Duke of Windsor quite rightly. In a sense Elizabeth Bowes Lyon saved the monarchy, along with her parents in law the wiley George V and Mary of Teck . Queen Mary used to come to Kilburn's Gaumont State Cinema (her favourite). Her snobbery influenced her useless Prince Charles, and colluded in his adultery, selfishness & political meddling. She was undereducated and reflected the bigotry & racism of her class & times , though her husband was down to earth and got on well with his Labour ministers & PM. Atlee. Queen Elizabeth the queen mother's funeral should have been sponsored by Gordon's Gin and William HIll betting😜. Hopefully her grandson will be the last monarch , with his barmy ideas on homeopathy, architecture, political meddling , religion and marginal philosophy.
Barb Lacy
Barb Lacy 3 ай бұрын
Interesting summary. You can see generationally why Charles is so strange!
Lady Damiana
Lady Damiana 4 ай бұрын
It's not true about Wallis and the QM meeting only after the Duke of Windsor's death. In fact, Wallis had met her and Bertie when they were Duke/Duchess of York and before Edward was even king, and a few times after Edward succeeded. Marion Crawford's "The Little Princesses" records one such occasion, and other Windsor biographies mention some meetings as well.
Leon Leon
Leon Leon 4 ай бұрын
I truly believe that our exterior appearance as we age reflects the internal. Looking at her through the years I would say this was correct.
Rebecca Lee
Rebecca Lee 26 күн бұрын
Totally agree I have found this to be true.
AnonTom
AnonTom 2 ай бұрын
@MilesBellas I think we are on the same page, I was being sarcastic.
MilesBellas
MilesBellas 2 ай бұрын
@AnonTom Superficiality isn't a mantra. People can dress as anything.
a commentator
a commentator 3 ай бұрын
oh yes blame people for getting ill or disabled. sounds medieval. mark of the devil
AnonTom
AnonTom 4 ай бұрын
Judging a book by its cover is a great life mantra.
Perplexed Bystander
Perplexed Bystander 2 ай бұрын
Obviously as an ordinary commoner I never mixed in the same circles as this lady but I wonder if she mellowed as she grew older. Some years ago I went to a talk given by a lady who used to work in a clerical capacity at the Old Bailey (not that the talk had anything to do with that). Anyway, this lady and some work colleagues had summoned the lift (elevator) to go down a few floors and when it came the doors opened and who was in there but the Queen Mum and some protection officers who told the ladies to shoo basically. Anyway, the old Queen Mum said to let the ladies come into the lift, so they went down with the QM, so she was gracious on that occasion at least.
Angel 1
Angel 1 2 ай бұрын
I remember reading how shop keepers would dread her coming in, as she felt she needn't pay for anything....
Kim N
Kim N 2 ай бұрын
I can verify that. My mother-in-law was from York. She told me it was well known that when the EB-L would come to York, whole streets would be shut down for her to go shopping and that she never paid for anything. Shopkeepers would close their shops to avoid her.
Green Brain
Green Brain 2 ай бұрын
I suppose being brought up rich and privileged encourages narcissistic qualities in some people. The Queen Mum, her grandson Andrew, Lord Mountbatten. It’s actually encouraging that it happens so little with these types.
Marlyn Hutchison
Marlyn Hutchison 4 ай бұрын
I always laugh when they say she was everyone's favorite grandmother well she want mine
Borley Boo!
Borley Boo! Ай бұрын
Same when they say Diana was ‘queen of all our hearts’. She certainly wasn’t Queen of my heart. I disliked her as well.
Dawn Finch
Dawn Finch 4 ай бұрын
Not mine
Denise Whitaker
Denise Whitaker Ай бұрын
King George VI died on 2/6/1952. This was the day I was born in Santa Monica, California, and I have known this all of my life! I believe you got the date wrong. Thank you for a wonderful history.
Lilly May
Lilly May 3 ай бұрын
My Great Uncle was guardsman outside Buckingham Palace and described the QM as a dragon and not very nice.
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